The Shelby Problem

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Pretty much anyone who's read the updates with Shelby in them can tell that I absolutely adore her as a character. She's a great deal of fun to write and I think she's a very good match for Elijah. She grounds him and balances him out. I was a little worried at first about mixing in her genetics, but I figured it was time to mix things up a little.

Unfortunately, I have discovered that there's more of a problem with her genetics than I thought. Shelby has one of the face templates that's been added to the game incorrectly. From what I understand, there are two face templates added with Uni that are not linked properly to the other age groups. So, as a result, a sim created with this adult template will display face one for any age group other than adult/ya.

There's a fix over at MATY which I've had for quite a while. Since long before I Shelby was even part of the story. I thought this would fix the problem, but I was wrong. Apparently, the fix does not help sims that are already in the game with that template. It only helps new sims that are created after the fix is in.

So, here's what the real Shelby looks like at all the life stages:



And here's what she's supposed to look like:



I've posted about this problem on MATY and I'm hoping someone can come back with a solution, but I have a feeling I'm on my own with this one. With Shelby herself, I think I can fix the issue with some sim surgery. I create a duplicate in CAS and use sim surgery to kick her genetics back into gear. The only problem with this is that it doesn't help fix Louise or Oz.

I extracted Louise and played with her as well. She's got the exact same problem as Shelby. None of her features that she inherited from her mother show up at any lifestage other than adult/ya. I'm guessing that Oz is going to have the exact same problem since he looks just like Louise.

This is going to drive me nuts until I figure out a solution. There's no way I want Shelby to suddenly become face one as an elder and I really would prefer that her kids, my legacy heirs, show the features they're supposed to have and be able to pass them down to their own kids.

Anyone have any ideas on this one?

Comments

[chickensensei.livejournal.com]

Ugh ... I had a problem like that once. I married in the Downtownie with the green vest and he had that template ... I didn't really know what his daughter would look like until she hit adult.

I would say extract their child with SimPE, age them up in Bodyshop to Adult, then with the fixed template, replace the parts that are Face 2. And then use sim surgery to replace them. The only problem I see with doing this is that you don't always get the right facial combination because sometimes the genes are halfway between each parents. That's would I would do ... sorry if it isn't too helpful.

[avidreader7.livejournal.com]

Oh man, I had no idea about this problem! I don't have any fixes, either, I'm sorry. I hope you'll be able to find one - she's too awesome to suddenly look like a totally different Sim when she ages, and her kids deserve to actually inherit her real features.

[leaths.livejournal.com]

Urk. What a huge PITA.

Here's my thought for the kids. Since they're just toddlers right now and haven't been in the story yet, could you extract Shelby and Elijah, breed them in CAS until you get similar looking kids, stick them somewhere, extract the kids and then sim surgery the real Louise and Oz?

[leaths.livejournal.com]

Oops. I knew Louise isn't a toddler. Creates more of a problem I guess, but if you fixed her as a child, it wouldn't throw off continuity that much since toddlers often look so different when they age up anyway.

[swhedonberry.livejournal.com]

This is going to sound horrible. Could you get rid of the originals and replace them with the extracted versions, using SimPE to make them identical in personality, memories, days lived, relationships and interests?

It would be a PITA, but the genetics would be fixed.

[swhedonberry.livejournal.com]

Oh, and do you have a link to the fixes?

[smjoshsims.livejournal.com]

I pretty much have the same solution as everyone else, extract them, put the duplicates in game, and use Sim Surgery to make them look like they're supposed to.

[docnerd.livejournal.com]

Instead of getting rid of the originals, what about correcting them with the Show Biz Plastic Surgery reward? You can make the changes genetic in SimPE, but age Louise and Oz up to Adult (or there may be a fix for letting them use it as Teens), change their faces to what they should be using features from Shelby's face template, and age them back down again, and repair their days left in the life stage. Or just wait until they hit college to do it, if you don't want to make a hash of everyone's memories.

[fireflowersims.livejournal.com]

I don't have any alternate solutions in mind, but good luck in fixing all this!

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[rcubical.livejournal.com]

Well you kind of answered your own question there. If you do extract all three of them then you could easily fix the genetics.

Another idea that might have the story seeming less as "surprise, look at their new faces" , although it would be really annoying, would be to create versions of Louise and Ozzie where their face is tweaked to be in between both face one and Shelby's face as teens.

[smoothiesims.livejournal.com]

I'd go with the SimSurgery idea, as well, and I hope it works all right and fixes the problem without creating more. Man, this game can really be annoying sometimes, huh? :P